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madameshawshank



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my collection of old postcards, there is one booklet...of some religious pagent in some European city...all the cardinals and bishops are not thin! The following link has a cartoon which reminded me of those images Wink

methinks this is worth a read:
http://www.thetablet.co.uk/cgi-bin/archive_db.cgi/tablet-01143

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:55 am    Post subject: WAR Reply with quote

"we can never obtain peace in the outer world until we make prace with ourselves"

HIS HOLINESS THE 14TH DALAI LAMA
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:00 am    Post subject: APOLOGIES Reply with quote

I sincerely apologise for my typo, His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama said

"We can never obtain peace in the outer world until we make peace with ourselves".
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it's trivial, but I'm worried about the future of "Danish" pastry...I've always been overly fond of Cheese "Danish". Are they now banned in the Middle East?
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simona



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why should you worry? NYC is not yet part of the Middle East. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Believe me, Astoria, NY is very Middle Eastern. But then it's very Brazilian, Columbian, Ukrainian, Greek, Pakistani, Thai...heck it's too multi-culti to count, Simona Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there also cartoonists in Astoria, NY? I Hope not, it's an endangered specie..
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An interesting program on the BEEB on this subject, worth a listen...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/denmarkcartoon/pip/vmmcz/
Denmark: In the Eye of the Cartoon Storm
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that resource. Unfortunately, I only heard what I think we've been seeing: that this has been a deliberately orchestrated effort by radical fundamentalists to squash freedom of expression in Denmark as a vehicle for forcing the Western world into submission.

I am 100% for Muslims having complete freedom to live their lives and practice their beliefs in peace. ...and at least one of the interviewed Muslims expressed that she had chosen to leave Iran and live in Denmark because she experienced greater freedom there. But I see no obligation for anyone else to adopt their practice or be banned from expressing legitimate political observations however unflattering. One could argue that the fundamentalists might have had a different reaction to the same points made in text rather than images. I think, however debatable, that remains a cosmetic difference that Muslims have chosen and to which others are not subject.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

carolg wrote:
I know it's trivial, but I'm worried about the future of "Danish" pastry...I've always been overly fond of Cheese "Danish". Are they now banned in the Middle East?


Here's the answer to your question. http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles?id=n20060216142309990009 Apparently there are principles and then there are appetites.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

most stomaches have their price...not all...most I'd say
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today there are planned protests at the NYC Danish Embassy, they are supposed to be peaceful. Here's hoping.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe a batch of fresh Roses of Mohammed Pastry ( ex danish) will help the NYC demonstrators in the cold weather?
If not awilable, some "freedom fries" ( ex french fries) could help too ( I'm always pro french, and pro freedom too). It remimds me about "kosher Shrimps" : Jews are not allowed to eat seafood so someone has invented a a kosher shrimp, which looks like a shrimp, smells like a shrimp but is processed from some kosher fish. It tastes like s.... but it's kosher. Next, someone will ask a pastry shop vendor: please can you give a cheese Mohhamad ( shortcut or the above Roses etc)) and there we go again, riots, killings WW3 etc. I prefer my danish , well , Danish.

No more war, more Danish roses .
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freedom Fries!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAHhhhhhhhhhh!!! Pulling my hair out!!!!!!

At least sauerkraut is no longer 'liberty cabbage'.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liberty Cabbage? I missed that one. Lucky me! It was all soooo juvenile.
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